# Cap vs. Choke Input Filters (Steve Bench)

Cap vs. Choke Input Filters

Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 10:37:58 -0700

Subject: Lc vs other filters

Hi Ken,

On the regulation of LC vs cap input…. Generally this is true, until you get to higher voltages, then the opposite occurs, primarily due to resistance of the power transformer and filter choke (to maintain critical inductance). The crossover between the 2 depends on the transformer regulation etc, but is in the ballpark of 1250 volts (the 845 crowd).

Consider 2 circuits…..

Goal: 1250 volts. Current varies from 50 to 100 mA (slight class AB with 845) monobloc. Ripple: about 2.5V P-P. For an LC filter L critical at 50 mA is about 25H. Both full wave bridge using 1N4xxx diodes.

Circuit 1:

LC Filter. Consider a 30H and 50 uF (series 150u 500V to get 50u 1500V) The inductor has 350 ohms resistance (Scaled from Hammonds offerings on the AES website). Transformer nominal 1450V, 100 mA 15% regulation.

Results: at 50 mA you get 1380V at about 2.5V ripple, at 100 mA, 1250V at 2.5V ripple. Notice 1380V/50mA is still above critical current, for 30H.

Circuit 2:

CRC Filter. C=67u R=39 ohms C=67u Transformer nominal 992V, 146 mA 15% regulation (same power rating).

Results: at 50 mA you get 1380V at about 1.2V ripple, at 100mA, 1250V at 2.4V ripple.

As you go higher in voltage and/or lower in current the cap input is actually better!

Wierd, ain’t it?

EMailed only.

Best Regards,

Steve